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(From Project Camelot)
ANTHONY SANCHEZ AUDIO INTERVIEW - TRANSCRIPT
安東尼.桑卻斯語音訪談 - 文字謄本
翻譯者: 麻枝光
備註：facial paralysis，被訪者患上臉部不明傷害。nerve agent，字面上是神經試劑，但不明所以的字詞，有些我不懂的英語單詞直接放棄了，反正不影響大體意思。不管是否真的，的確比較驚人，不過需要謹慎對待，不要全信。不知道誰說的名言，你認真就輸了。
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PROJECT CAMELOT INTERVIEW WITH ANTHONY SANCHEZ RE DULCE & PROJECT LEONID...
this groundbreaking interview covers Anthony's investigation on the Archuleta Mesa where he contacted a nerve agent that has caused facial paralysis and then links to Project Leonid a top secret SKYNET ALA TERMINATOR type project where a grid of nano-satellites using AI ... self replicating and repairing... are poised for a 2012 landing scenario from a "progenitor" race of beings and how the Chinese are being positioned to rule the world...
這即時採訪使對Anthony在Archuleta Mesa地區調查，遇上一個神經試劑然後引起臉部中毒，和請鏈結至...Leonid工程是一個絕密類似天網或者Terminator類型的工程，是用智慧程式運作的一個NANO衛星網路....能自我複製和修復...由於2012年我們祖先種族回歸地球和將會把中國人放到統治世界的位置...
語音訪談 http://projectcamelotproductions.com/mediafiles/audio/anthony_sanchez_audio.mp3
語音訪談 http://projectcamelotproductions.com/mediafiles/audio/Anthony_sanchez2_StudioStav.mp3
原文鏈結 http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/anthony_sanchez/anthony_sanchez.html#
Anthony Sanchez - Telephone Conversation 電話對話
November 4, 2011
Kerry Cassidy (Kerry): Hi. This is Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot. Tonight I was contacted by Anthony Sanchez, the author of 'UFO Highway' in regard to an investigation in Dulce, New Mexico at the Archuleta Mesa. Unfortunately, he has contacted a nerve agent in the process, and he wanted to discuss his finding, as well as we ended up talking about a very crucial area of investigation that involves the Chinese, a group of off-world visitors, and the near-Earth orbiting satellites, and a special secret project that Lockheed Martin is involved in, called 'Project Leonid.'
K：嗨。這是來自卡米洛特工程的Kerry Cassidy。今晚我被Anthony Sanchez聯繫上，UFO Highway的作者，是一個實際上在Archuleta Mesa的新墨西哥州道西做調查的人。不幸地，他在工程中聯繫了一個神經試劑，和他想討論他的發現，在我們的這非常重要地區調查的訪談，其中牽涉到中國人、一個外來訪問者的集團和近地球衛星，和一個特別秘密工程叫Lockheed Martin，叫Lenoid工程。
Because this information is so crucial, I am releasing this audio interview that was basically a phone call, in its unedited form, except for removing the information with regard to one witness whose life would be in danger otherwise. So, without further adieu, I am going to let you listen to this interview, and I have to say that, because a lot of the information did cross-correlate with Project Camelot witnesses and whistleblowers, I believe that this information is very crucial to the world at this time. And this is November 4th, Friday at 3:00am in the morning. Thank you.
因為這個資訊非常重要，我正在發佈這個音頻訪談，基於電話的錄音，是非編輯形式的，除了移除可能會傷害到證人的名字。所以，否則就沒進一步的再會，我打算讓你聽到這段訪談，和我必須說，因為卡米洛特工程的許多證人和爆料者的消息互相證明，我相信這資訊在此刻是對世界非常重要的。和現在是十一月四日，星期五，淩晨三點。謝謝。
Anthony Sanchez (Anthony): I got there on Monday and at 8 o'clock in the morning, when I met with the tribal council president and the public relations officer, they... surprisingly, they had already read what I wrote in the PDF, right?
A：我在星期一八點到達，當我部落議會首長和公共關係官員一起，他們....驚奇地，他們已經讀取過我的PDF中寫的東西，對不？
Kerry: Yeah.
K：是的。
Anthony: Based on that, they gave me unprecedented access to the reservation. So, by 10 o'clock... I mean, literally, after meeting with them, I met with a guy two hours later, and we're up at the top of the Mesa... Archuleta Mesa.
A:基於那個，他們給了我預先的擔保。所以，在十點鐘....我的意思是，字面上的，在遇見他們後，我在兩個小時候遇到一個傢伙，和我們到達Mesa的頂部...在Archuleta Mesa.
Kerry: Is it okay with you if I record this?
K：如果可以的話，是否介意我錄下？
Anthony: Yeah, yeah. I'm fine with that.
A：好的，我沒問題。
Kerry: Okay. Okay.
K：好的。
Anthony: So...
A：所以....
Kerry: Say, can you say, say your name and say the date?
K：說，你能否說一下你的名字和日期？
Anthony: Yeah, I might...
A：是的，我可能....
Kerry: Because just in case something happens to you, we should make sure we have this copy of your... whenever you're talking about it.
K：因為萬一你發生什麼，我將會確保我有你的副本...無論你談過什麼。
Anthony: Yeah. This is Anthony Sanchez, and it's 1 o'clock in the morning, Pacific Standard Time, November 4th, 2011. And again, I apologize about my voice, but that's the paralysis. So, and I'll get to that in a moment.
A：好的，我叫Anthony Sanchez，和現在是淩晨一點鐘，太平洋標準時間，十一月四日，2011。和我這癱瘓無力的聲音。所以，和我需要適應一下。
Kerry: Okay. And this is Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot.
K：好的。這是來自卡米洛特工程的Kerry Cassidy。
Anthony: Okay. So, like I said, on... on Decem... on... oh God... on the 17th of October, I get a call from Jesse Ventura's people. They want me to be in Dulce on the 21st, which is a Friday. I believe 17th was Monday. Anyway, so, they wanted me to be there to be part of their show, either as a consultant or whatever, whatever capacity they want, they needed me. But I couldn't. I was not going to be arriving in Dulce until the 24th. Man, I'm sorry about my voice. Anyway, I arrived at 2:30am in the morning in Dulce. By 8 o'clock morning, I'm actually meeting face-to-face with the tribal council president.
A：好的。所以，像我說的，在十月十七日...天啊，我接到傑西哥的人的電話。他們想我21日在道西，那正是星期五。我相信12日是星期一。無論如何，他們想我在那天參與他們的節目，或者作為諮詢者或者什麼的，什麼他們需要的能力，他們需要我。但我不能。我在24日才到達道西。我需要因為我的聲音說對不起。無論如何，我在兩點三十分早上道西。在早上八點，我實際上面對面與一個部落議會首長見面。
I met with the public relations officer. I have his card right here, I don’t remember his name off-hand. But I actually gave him a copy of my book. The thing was, Leon K. Reval. He's the public relations officer of the Jicarilla Apache Nation. Anyway, I was there at the tribal administration for some of these tribal council administrators and so on, meeting with these guys. And I don't know what happened, but Governor Ventura was not given access to the [field] at Dulce. They were very nice to him, but they essentially sent him off the reservation, and they put him in contact with a Bigfoot expert, someone who is not really an expert on the Dulce facility. He was Hoyt Velarde. And I don't know how that went but, anyway, we were given access. They gave us unprecedented access to the reservation.
我和公共關係官員見面。我這裏有他的卡片，離開手我就不記得他的名字。但我實際上給了他一本我的書的副本。這東西是Leon K. Reval。他是Jicarilla Apache的公共關係官員。無論如何，我在部落議會主管的地方，遇見了一些人。和我不知道什麼會發生，但是Governor Ventura不被給予進入道西的[地方]。他們是對他不錯，但實際上就是叫他離開，和他們把他丟到大腳專家那裏去了，一些不是真的在道西基地工作的專家。他是Hoyt Velarde。和我不知道怎麼去，但是，我們得到連接。他們給了一個預先的保證。
The only thing we were not allowed to do, was to interview people on the reservation. They wanted us to interview them off the reservation. I don't know why that was the case, but we had a series, we conducted a series of interviews in-house, which is not too far from Dulce. And back in Dulce, we were allowed to film, anywhere we wanted to film, so long as we had a man with the Nation with us. I had a seven-year veteran police officer of the Jicarilla Police Department, Jicarilla Apache Police Department, as our guide. He's now a professional hunting guide, and he took us up to the Mesa; [it took us] a couple hours to get up to where, up to where we needed to go.
唯一的一件事是我們不被允許去做，他們想我們去離開保證去採訪。我不知道為什麼會這樣，但我們有一系列，我們做了一系列的室內採訪，都是離道西不遠處的。和回到道西我們被允許去拍攝任何我們想拍攝的地方，還有區內的一個人陪同著。我有個七年服役在Jicarilla Apache部門的警官做導遊。他現在是專業的打獵導遊，和他帶我們去Mesa；[花了]我們幾個小時到達那裏，因為是必須的。
Kerry, we discovered U.S. government property up there on the Mesa, We're the first investigative research team to discover U.S. government property. Military-grade material. So, I don't know if that's what caused this, but later that evening, I don't know what happened. I had a severeheadache. The next day I'm [retoused]. It's just... [it escalates]. The pain is so bad, I just can't deal with it. The following morning, I wake up with full paralysis on my face. I go to the hospital there, and they initially think I have a stroke. Then they tell me, no I don't have a stroke. I don't even have high blood pressure. First, [and then] tell me I'm not even pre-diabetic. They... I told them that I had surgery twenty years ago to remove a benign [substance] from my inner ear. They did a CT scan and they see some remnants of the [previous procedure from 40 years ago] still there, but they're not concerned about that. They don't... Then they think I have something called Bell's Palsy, but they aren't sure, because they said nothing was fitting right with the way this all came about, the paralysis.
A：我們發現美國政府的財產出現在Mesa，我們的調查組首先發現美國政府的財產的。軍隊級別的材料。所以我不知道如果什麼引起這，但在晚上遲了，我不知道發生什麼事。我有一陣頭痛。第二天我retoused。只是...it escalates。這真的很痛苦，我只是無法處理。跟著那天的早晨，我早上發現臉部全部癱瘓。我去了那裏的醫院，和他們初步想我被撞擊了。然後他們告訴我，我不是被撞擊。我甚至不發現高血壓。首先，然後告訴我甚至不是pre-diabetic。他們...告訴我有個手術在二十年前從我的內耳移除了benign物質。他們然後做了個CT掃描和他們看到四十年前手術的previous procedure殘留物，但他們不關注那個。他們不....然後他們想我得到了一個病叫Bell's Palsy，但他們不敢確定，因為他們說這癱瘓引起的原因。
And back in California, I [go to the] doctor. I had a blood test [taken]. They're concerned about the remnants of the surgery. They don't know if it's a reoccurrence of this benign substance. But anyway, the they went ahead with the blood test. And here's what really sucks. When the blood test came back, it came back positive for some type of neurological toxin or bio-agent.
和回到加利福利亞，我去找醫生。我做了個血液測試。他們關注the remnants of the surgery。他們不知道如果這是一個reoccurrence的benign substance。順便，他們繼續血液測試，和這真的糟了。當血液測試結果回來，結果顯示對某種類型的神經毒素或者生物標記起反應。
Kerry: Wow.
K：噢。
Anthony: They said... they said that if it had been ant poison or wasp poison or something to that effect, it would have a chemical signature that they could identify. They can't identify what this is. The one doctor says --- and I swear to God these are his exact words -- he said, 'It almost appeared as if it were some military-grade neural agent.'
A：他們說..他們說如果如果這是什麼ant/wasp毒藥或者有什麼影響，他們可能把這定義為化學標籤。他們不能把這定義為什麼。其中一個醫生說---我向神發誓（他另外的話）--他說的，‘如果要說到可能的話，那是軍隊級別的神經系試劑。’
Kerry: Oh wow, yeah. Incredible.
K：噢，喔，是的，難以置信。
Anthony: So now, I have paralysis. And the... The bad news is that, it's not Bell's Palsy, which they said to me was... would have been... because that would have been good news if it had been Bell's Palsy, because they said it would cure itself over time. But, anyway, that's where I am right now.
A：所以，我有paralysis。和...壞消息是，它不是Bell's Palsy，那些他們告訴我的是...可能已經...因為那是Bell's Palsy的話就是壞消息，因為他們說它會過時自己修復。但，無論如何，我現在就在應在的地方了。
Kerry: I don't understand... Can you... I'm sorry. Can you back up and explain what happened to you, what you came in contact with, that might have caused this. In other words, you were saying you got to a certain area of the reservation. What area was that? And what is it that you came across specifically?
K：我不明白...你能不能...對不起。你能回去解釋你身上發生了什麼事嗎，你遇上了什麼，應該是有什麼原因的。用另一種說法，你可能去了一些不可以去的地方。那是什麼地方？和你遇到了一些什麼特別的東西？
Anthony: We were... I went to... Yeah, I went to three areas when I was in Dulce. First, we went to Dulce Rock, to investigate why there are so many UFO sightings over Dulce Rock. Then we went to Mount
Archuleta. This is not the Mesa, not Archuleta, which is off to the East. Anyway, the rest of the story is... What... What we found was on the Archuleta Mesa. We went up to the plat... When we suddenly reached the plateau of the Mesa, we encountered a UFO crash site from 1996. When we walked around, we took photographs.
A：我們曾經...我去過...啊，我去過三個區域，當我在道西基地的時候。第一，我去過Dulce Rock，目的是去調查為什麼在Dulce Rock有那麼多UFO目擊。然後我去過Archuleta山。這不是在Mesa，不是Archuleta，那是離山的東面。無論怎麼樣，剩下的事就是...什麼的...我在Archuleta Mesa那兒發現的東西。我上去過一個平臺...當我們突然到達Mesa的高地，我們在1996年遇到一個UFO墮毀地點。當時我們周圍查探和拍照。
And then we analyzed this area which I call ['shadow range'], which I believe is the possibility for an entrance to the Dulce facility. [But] we were just... less than 1,500 feet away from the radio towers, when I spotted, out of the corner of my eye with my peripheral vision, two strange objects. They were about five feet by five feet wide, and then about maybe four feet tall. They were containers. They were military containers. They were military-grade. They had plated serial information with [trowel] serial numbers on them, and they were jet engine containers.
然後我們分析了一個我叫陰影區域的地方，那是一個我相信可能是通往道西基地設施的通道。但我們只是...距離無線電通信塔少於1500英尺，當我站在原地，在我眼角的餘光裏出現兩個奇怪的物體。它們大概是5乘5英尺寬，和可能四英尺高。那都是容器。那是軍隊的容器，軍隊級別的。那塔上面有一系列的數字，和那都是飛機引擎的容器。
Kerry: Did you take any photographs? I'm sorry. Did you take photographs?
K：你有沒有照相？對不起，你有沒有拍照下來？
Anthony: Yes I did. I took high definition video and a high definition 16 megapixel photograph of these. And I'll be sending these up to you.
A：嗯，我有。我帶著一個高質量的攝錄機和一個16萬圖元的照相機。和我將會把那些資料發給你。
Kerry: Okay. Did you put it on your webs... Did you put it on your website?
K：好的。你有沒有放在網路上...你有沒有放在你的網站？
Anthony: It's not on my website yet, but I've already sent it to Mel Fabregas and I sent it to Jerry Pippin, and I asked them to show it to an entire audience of people at the ASPE event on the 30th [of October], which was a Sunday, during my presentation on Dulce. I was already suffering from paralysis at that point on my face, but I went ahead with my presentation anyway. And I showed the images there.
A：那還不是我的網站，但我已經發給Mel Fabregas和Jerry Pippin，和我在十月三十日叫他們完整地在ASPE上發佈，那是星期天，當我在道西的時候。我已經把我的面子給技術處理掉，但我繼續我的事。和放出那兒的圖片。
Kerry: Okay, good. So yes, please send that to me, however you can do it.
K：好的，所以對了，請發給我，無論你做了什麼。
Anthony: As soon as I'm done talking, I'm going to email it to you. The strange thing is that Norio Hayakawa... I think I was Norio, I don't remember who, somebody in my party, realized that these were containers for jet engines. We identified them at F-5 jet engines. They were F-5. Curiously, it was from the '60s and '70s. This is an older jet technology, but it would make sense, whether they have been there since... the supported... firefighting in the '79 era... Here's the important aspect to all of this. What the hell is it doing up there on sovereign Indian land? It is totally out of place. My guide says he's never seen it before. And I'm like, 'Well, it's right there, in plain sight. It's under a tree, right behind you, about three feet behind you is another one.' And he says he swears that he's never seen these there before.
A：當我和你電話完畢就電郵給你。有一樣奇怪的東西是Norio Hayakawa....我想我是Norio，我不記得誰參與我的團組，意識到這些是噴氣式引擎的容器。我們定義它們為F-5戰機引擎。他們是F-5。好奇的是，它來自六十和七十年代。這是一個舊技術，但它引起一些注意，是否他們已經在那兒自從....支持79年的戰鬥....這是一個重要的方面。到底最自治的印第安人的土地做了什麼？這東西似乎完全放錯了地方。我的導遊說他從沒見過這些東西。和我像..好的，它就這樣出現在平原上的那裏。在一棵樹下，在你的右後邊，大概三英尺的背後有另一個。和他發誓說他在這裏從沒見過這些東西。
So, whether they were put there recently, I don't know. But what it confirms to me is that the U.S. government, specifically the military, is up there in Dulce. Now, this is a bit of information that you need to know. This guide, in June of this year, 2011, took two members of the Phoenix Suns' basketball team up there on a hunting trip. This is what this guide was remembering now. When they were up there -- and I have the names of the basketball players too, by the way -- when they were up there, they were confronted by three men in military outfits. You cannot make out what ranks of the military they were part of, but they had side arms and they had AR15 rifles.
所以，是否他們近期才放在那兒，我不知道。但這些東西向我確認了是美國政府的，特別是軍隊，就在道西。現在，這一點你知道的資訊。這個導遊，在2011年的六月，帶了鳳凰城太陽籃球隊的兩個成員去打獵旅行。這就是導遊所記的的事。當時他們就在那兒---和我也有那些球員的名字，順便---當他們在那兒的時候，一群軍人前面有三個[特別的]人。你不能確定他們是屬於軍隊的那個部分，但他們的手臂上有AR15飛行隊的章。
They approached them and they told them, 'You need to vacate the premises. You are violating a restricted area.'
他們攔住他們和告訴他們，說“你需要得到允許才能進入這限制區域。”
And the guide told them, 'No. This is Jicarilla, Apache land and sovereign land, and I have every right to be here. I'm a Jicarilla.'
和導遊告訴他們，不，這是Jicarilla，Apacha land和自治地區，和我有權去任意地方。我就是Jicarilla。
And they told them, 'No. Today, it is a restricted area and you need to leave.' And they pointed their guns at him.
和他們告訴他們，不，今天，這是限制區域和你必須離開。然後拿著槍對著他。
So they left. This is all documented. This... This is crazy, Kerry. I met... oh God... There's just a lot of strange things going on that happened, not to mention the fact that I'm now paralyzed to the face after conducting all this investigative work up there. That's why I'm calling you, because I fear for my life. I have a bad cold. My office is compromised here. I've been videotaping my computer system, because somebody had tampered with my computer. My speakers are running these digital signals and these strange sounds. I swear, I've heard the words 'Dulce.' I've heard the word 'Hill,' as in Hill Air Force Base and 'Kirtland,' as in Kirtland Air Force Base.
所以他們離開了。這都是有記錄的。這...這很瘋狂，Kerry。我遇到...天啊....有許多奇怪的事情在那兒繼續發生，不提我的臉部現在有點可怕，在所有調查開始之後。這是為什麼我打電話給你，因為我為自己的生命有點害怕。我患有嚴重感冒。我的辦公室是達成協定的。我已經把我的電腦系統錄影了，因為有些人試圖拆掉我的電腦。我的話筒正在運行奇怪的數位信號和奇怪的聲音。我發誓，我已經聽到“道西”的字眼。我聽到字眼“Hill”，如空軍基地的在Hill裏和“Kirtland”。
Either they're messing with my head, trying to make me paranoid. I don't know. It's just... There's a lot going on right now and I'm just... [so very] concerned.
或者我記亂了，嘗試使我發瘋。我不知道，這只是....現在有很多事正在發生和我只是...非常關注。
Kerry: Okay. They're probably, probably doing some mind control stuff going. So, what is it that you're trying to get at, because, I mean, with all due respect, we know there's a base underground at Dulce. So, are you trying to prove it? Is that your angle? Why is it that you were up there?
K：好的。他們可能，正在做思想控制。所以可能是你嘗試得到的，因為，我的意思是各種方面的，我知道在道西有地下基地。所以是否你嘗試去證明它的存在？那是你的angle（譯者注：盎格魯族？似乎對不上上下文的意思）？為什麼你曾經在這兒？
Anthony: I was up there because I'm trying to find proof of the existence of the facility. What I did find was U.S. government property that should not be there. I also received testimony, with witnesses present. [Janet Jennerer], if you ask for verification, was present when I was interviewing the secret police -- I cannot tell you from where -- where he's admitting to there being a facility on the Southwest portion of the Archuleta Mesa. He said he was helicoptered in. And he saw a... No, he was not helicoptered in. He knows the two individuals who were helicoptered in 1979 who admitted to him that there is a holographic entrance on the Southwest portion of the Archuleta Mesa. He also said that beneath the radio towers, there would be a holographic entrance. And that they have seen craft repeatedly come and go from this entrance to the facility.
A：我在那兒因為我嘗試找出設施的存在的證據。我發現的是美國政府財產不應該在那兒。我也收到證據，來自一個證人。[Janet Jennerer]，如果你問證件，當前我在訪問秘密警局---我不能告訴你來自哪兒---他承認那兒是Archuleta Mesa東南部的一個設施。他說他是坐直升飛機進入。和他看到一個....不，他不是坐直升飛機。在1979年，他知道兩個人給予允許進入一個位於Archuleta Mesa的東南部全息通道。他說那無線電通信塔底下，隱藏有一個全息的通道。和他們發現飛行器重複在設施裏進進出出。
Now, this is key information that I'm sharing with you here. I have the identities of the two [informants] who were at the facility in 1979. One of them was a New Mexico State Police Officer, and no, it was not Gabe Valdez. And the other one was a high-ranking law enforcement officer from the Jicarilla Apache Nation. I have both of their names. I want to give you their names, Kerry. What I want to do is off this recording. I cannot give you their names on this recording, but I will give them to you at a time that's off the recording. So you need to know the names, that they are real, they were there, and they admitted to the [site and told the] chief of police, that they were there. [Of course...]
現在，我在這裏要和你分享一個關鍵資訊。我有兩個1979年在設施工作過的人的資訊。其中一個是在新墨西哥州警局的官員，啊不，它不是Gabe Valdez。和另外一個是Jicarilla Apache地區的高等法院執行官員。我有兩者的名字。我想給你他們的名字，Kerry。我想做就是離開錄音。我不能把他們的名字放在錄音裏面，但在錄音之外的時候我會把名字第一時間給你。所以你需要知道名字，他們是真的的，他們曾經在那兒，和他們承認[邊告訴]警局長官，他們曾經在那裏。[當然....]
Kerry: Okay. Now, but you have already said something on this recording that you don't want me to release, right? So, I'm going to need to go back and cut out that part. Is that correct?
K：好的。現在，但你已經在這錄音中說了一些不能讓我發佈的東西，對不？所以我需要回顧和剪掉部分，對不對？
Anthony: Uh... [sighs] Maybe, yeah. I don't even know. I'm so tired right now. I'm just in so much pain. My head is in.... a tremendous amount of pain.
A：啊...[歎氣]可能，是的，甚至我不知道。我現在很疲累。我現在很痛苦。我的腦....極其混亂和痛苦。
Kerry: Okay. I want to try to get... I want to try to get you some help. So, I will try to find you some healers, because I have... I know people that have access to various healing techniques.
K：好的。我想嘗試得到....我想嘗試為你獲得幫助。所以，我將會嘗試幫你找治療者，因為我必須....我知道不同的治療技術。
Anthony: Right.
A：對的。
Kerry: And it's very likely that we can try to cure you of this, okay?
K：和這非常像我們試圖治癒你，行不？
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十秒鐘音頻被剪掉。
Anthony: Okay. Yeah.
A：好的。
Kerry: So, I will work...
K：所以，我將會工作....
Anthony: But I did... and I did meet with some healers when I was in-house. But I'm telling you, it just all came about so quickly. And I couldn't even drive home. I had to have a friend drive me home. I drove twenty-two-and-a-half straight hours from Northern California to Dulce without breaking, stopping for a break. And then the same when I [go to your] home. Twenty-two-and-a-half hours each way.
A：但我確實....和我在家裏和不少治療師見面過。但我想告訴你，這發生得實在太快。和我甚至不想開車回家。我需要朋友開車送我回家。我已經不間斷20個和半個小時直接開車從北加利福利亞去到道西，停一會兒。和然後當我來到你家。二十多個小時就實在長。
Kerry: Ah. Okay, now...
K：啊，對，現在......
Anthony: It was just insane. Now, I went... I went from essentially sea level to 13,000 feet elevation when I went to his house. Got 9,500 feet elevation in Dulce. It's just... I'm telling you, something is going on.
A：這只是瘋狂似的。現在，我去過...我需要來自13000英尺海平面高度，當我去過她的家。道西是9500英尺。這只是....我想告訴你有些東西正在進行。
Kerry: Okay. Anthony, if we release this, I can put this on Camelot. You will great deal of notice. Do you want that, because it's possible there will be healers who will contact me as well, through contact...
K：好的。Anthony，如果我們發佈了，我會放在卡米洛特網站。你將會得到大量的關注。你是否想這樣做，因為有可能一些治療師會聯繫我，通過聯繫....
Anthony: Yeah, that's the... see, that's the whole purpose of this. I'm trying to get... I'm trying to let people know that there is something in Dulce, that I spoke to somebody who actually worked there, that I'm receiving, I received so much validation from three different families, eleven people who work for the law enforcement, law enforcement employees in Dulce from Jicarilla Apache Nation, and one of them is the current chief of police elsewhere. Not in Dulce, but elsewhere, but right there in Northern New Mexico, who is a Jicarilla Indian, by the way. So, yeah.
A：是的，那是....看，這是整個目的。我嘗試著得到....我嘗試著讓人們知道在道西發生著什麼，和我曾說過有一些人的確在那兒工作過，我從那裏接收著一些，不同家庭的如此多地確認，十一個執法人員，來自Jicarilla Apache地區在道西工作的執法雇員。不在道西，還有別的地方，但正好在新墨西哥州北部，還有一些Jicarilla印第安人。所以，啊。
Kerry: Okay.
K：好的。
Anthony: I need this information out there. That's what this is for, and now I'm paying the price for it with my life and my health. And it's [serious]. It's just at a point where I gotta get it out there.
A：我需要把資訊帶出那兒。這就是原因，和現在我正在為我的生命和健康在付出代價。和這是認真的。這只是我帶出來的其中一點。
Kerry: But, okay. Yeah. I think, I think the most important thing is for you to get healed right away. So, I will send out some notice about this. But is there anything else, while I have you on this recording, that you want to talk about, because obviously, this will be a good moment for you to get the word out on anything you're investigating.
K：但，好的，我想，最重要的事是你得到治療。所以，我會發佈一些關於這些事的提示。但還有其他的事，當我在做你的記錄，關於你談論的那些事，因為明顯地，這是一個好的機會給你說出你的評論和公佈你的調查。
Anthony: No. There's a lot of information that I have right now. With respect to Dulce, the only other thing that I have is this crash site that we found, that we surveyed, where apparently a 150-foot diameter copper disc disc smashed into a side of a hill there, and we saw it. We found it. There's a 300 [foot] wide section of perimeter [we saw], half of which is now gone. And when you study the impact, you notice that the [perimeter we saw] is this first in a sliding pattern, in a downward sliding pattern, and all the trees are knocked over. This is what I was told by these witnesses. This was in 1996. When they viewed this, it was during the evening. Immediately, black SUVs were all over the Mesa. They created a perimeter around the crash site and they started excavating the... They started removing the crash evidence. They also, with the assistance, but under the direct authority of the military, the Jicarilla Police Force went from home-to-home confiscating cameras of any sorts. All the cameras -- this is what I was told -- were returned, without film or deleted. Deleted media.
A：不，我現在有很多資訊。和道西有關，我還發現了其他一些東西，通過調查我發現了一個墮落地點，那兒明顯有直徑150尺銅碟散落在山的一邊，和我們看到並找到了。還有大概300尺的長度，一半消失了。和當時你研究這衝擊痕跡，你會注意散落的範圍，是一個下降滑落型，和所有樹都被撞倒。這是我的證人說的。那是在1996年。當時他們發現的時候是夜晚。立即，黑色SUV車佈滿整個Mesa。他們創造了一個圍著飛碟墮毀區域和他們開始挖掘這...他們開始移走飛碟證據。他們也直接協助軍隊，Jicarilla警隊也每家每戶查探誰有錄影和其他什麼的。所有的錄影---這是我被告訴的---回來了，沒有影片被刪除。
So, what happened and what was that copper disc that these people saw? Was it a grey craft or was it... was it a military, a clandestine military craft? I don't know, but these people felt threatened. And I had three separate families who I conducted interviews with, that verified this information, and this story was the same from family to family. So again, something is happening there in Dulce. But the artifacts that I discovered up there. They're [either] jet engine containers. They're 1,500 feet away from the radio towers. What are they doing up there? The most important [reason we learned and proved,] proves that the U.S. military is up there. In what capacity? I don't know.
所以，這些人看到這銅碟發生了什麼事？它是灰人飛行器或者....或者屬於軍隊的，或者一個秘密的軍隊飛行器？我不知道，但這些人感覺被威脅了。和我採訪過三個獨立的家庭，那比較這資訊，和來自不同家庭的說法都相同。所以又，在道西發生了一些事。但我發現了相反的事實。他們是噴氣式引擎容器。他們離無線電通信塔有1500尺距離。他們在那裏到底在做什麼？最重要[經過研究和證明的原因]的是，證明了美軍就在那兒。在做什麼？我不知道。
Kerry: Okay. What's interesting is, if I understand it correctly, what you may have gotten in contact with, is a nerve agent, they said.
K：好的，有趣的是，如果我理解正確的話，他們說，你可能已經被一個敏感的機構接觸到了。
Anthony: Yes.
A：是的。
Kerry: And there's a nerve agent... there was a nerve agent in the containers. And what you might have... Did you touch the containers?
K：和有一個nerve agent....有神經試劑在容器中。和你可能已經.....已經接觸到容器了？
Anthony: Yes, my hands were all over the containers.
A：是的，我的手已經接觸到容器了。
Kerry: Geez. Okay.
K：額....好的。
Anthony: Yeah.
A：沒錯。
Kerry: Uh, and...
K：嗯，還有....
Anthony: And one of the things that Gabe Valdez said before he passed away. And so, I cannot believe I did not heed his advice. He said, do not touch the cattle. The mutilated cattle, he said, do not touch them. Do not touch any of the evidence near the mutilated cattle. And these jet containers happened to be right next to a cow pasture up there at this plateau.
A：和其中一個，Gabe Valdz說在他之前經過。和所以，我不能相信我不需要留心他的建議。他說，不要碰這只牛。這被切割的牛，他說，不要碰。不要碰被切割的牛的旁邊的任何證據。和這些jet容器就在高地的牧場的牛。
Kerry: Right. Okay. Did anyone else touch them?
K：好的，還有其他人碰過嗎？
Anthony: No. Just me.
A:不，只有我。
Kerry: Ah, God.
K：哎，天啊。
Anthony: Just me. My partner, Ric Prestel from Sacramento MUFON was using a high def video camera and he was filming it. So... No, I'm the only one that touched it.
A：只有我。我的拍檔，Sacramento MUFON組織的Ric Prestel正在用高圖元錄影機拍攝著。所以...不，我只是唯一碰它的人。
Kerry: I see.
K：我明白了。
Anthony: And the guide wouldn't go near them. He wouldn't go near them.
A：和嚮導者不會接近它們。他不會接近它們。
Kerry: Right.
K：好的。
Anthony: He stayed in... As a matter of fact, he stayed in his truck and he warned me not to film them. He warned me not to film them.
A：他留在....事實上，他留在卡車裏和警告我不要拍攝他們。
Kerry: Oh really.
K：哦，真的。
Anthony: Yeah. It was my... That was like [the warning].
A：是的，這是我的....這像[警告]。
Kerry: Okay...
K：好的...
Anthony: The guy was frightened. He was definitely afraid of something.
A：這個傢伙害怕。他絕對在害怕什麼。
Kerry: So, is this... are these things something that you're saying would have been carried on a jet in the '60s or...? I don't... Because I'm not... You're saying they're containers. What I'm not...
K：所以，這是....你說這和60年代或者什麼發生過類似的事？我不....因為我不....你是說他們是容器。我什麼都不....
Anthony: They're big box metal containers that are used to ship jet engines.
A：它們是用作船噴氣式發動機的大金屬容器。
Kerry: Oh. So, why would they contain a nerve agent?
K：噢，所以為什麼他們裝了神經試劑？
Anthony: I don't know. I don't know that they contained a nerve agent, but maybe the surrounding area did. I know that Gabe Valdez said... He said, don't do... don't ever touch the cattle. They identified substances in the cattle. They know that they were mild [agents] or something. Like... I think they've identified [rice] in at one point, anthrax at another point. And he said, don't touch them. And what do I do? I touch these containers. But I don't know that the containers are the source of what I have. I don't know.
A：我不知道。我不知道為什麼他們裝了神經試劑，但可能周圍區域做的。我不知道Gabe Valdez 說....他說，不要...不要再碰牛屍體。他們確認牛身上的物質。他們知道他們是野生的[agents]或者其他。像....我想他們確認[rice]在一點，在另一點anthrax。和他說，不要碰它們。和我做了什麼？我碰這些容器。但我不知道這些容器是否我有的源頭。我不知道。
Kerry: Okay. As far as this recording is concerned. Again, do you want me to go back and delete the part about... that you mentioned that you wanted deleted? Do you want me to go back and delete that before I release this?
K：好的，這些錄音都會被關注。還有，你是否想我回去刪除某些部分關於....你提到你想刪除一些？是否你想我回去刪除一些東西再發佈這錄音？
Anthony: Yes, yes. Yes.
A：是的是的。
Kerry: Okay. And...
K：好的，和...
Anthony: I don't want any mention of... if I mentioned any names... I don't want to mention too much. The facts.
A：我不能提到他們的名字，任何一個人的名字，事實上。
Kerry: Okay, fine.
K：好的。
Anthony: Kerry, this is what, this is why I can't be scared about investigating and doing research on Dulce. Nobody wants to be... nobody wants to come out. Nobody wants their names known. Especially the Jicarilla. For them, it's cultural, because they're American Indian and they have these various strong convictions and beliefs, and they just don't like coming out with this stuff. And there's other people who are not Jicarilla, who are from New Mexico, who are just definitely afraid to talk. Why are they really afraid to talk? Listen. I’ve been harassed by [Dill] Air Force Base [MRIC Detachment 2IT] twice. Twice already. This year. I've been harassed by them. My house has been broken into. I had ten of my hard drives that were stolen from my property. So, something's going on. And now I have this paralysis to deal with on my face, from some neurological agent, bio-agent. So... this information has to get out there.
A：Kerry，這是為什麼我不能害怕在道西做調查和研究。沒有人想成為....沒有人想離開。沒有人想他們的名字被知道。特別Jicarilla。對於他們，這不是文化，因為他們是美國印第安人和他們已經有各種強力的信仰和信念，和他們不想離開他們的團體。和還有其他人不是Jicarilla或者新墨西哥的人絕對害怕去談論這些事。為什麼他們真的害怕去談論？聽著。我已經被空軍基地的人冒犯兩次。今年已經兩次。我的家已經被闖入過。我的硬碟已經被偷過。所以，有些東西再進行。和現在我的臉部癱瘓也和神經生化機構有關。所以....這是已經帶出來的重要資訊。
Kerry: Okay. All right. Anthony, if there's anything else you want to say about your overall investigations, because we have been in touch and... Of course, I'm happy to meet with you at any time. I actually just got back from India. I'm very jet-lagged at this moment, which is why I'm awake. But I'm happy to meet with you, and we can film this in a more formal setting, if you wish.
K：好的，Anthony，如果你對你的調查有什麼想說，因為我們已經接觸和....當然，我很開心認識你。我實際上才從印度回來。我此刻非常jet-lagged，我在那兒醒來。但我很高興能遇上你，和我們能用普通的設備拍成片，如果你希望的話。
Anthony: Mm-hm.
A：嗯。
Kerry: But, as far as what's going on with you, what other investigations you've been part of recently, that could have any bearing on what is happening to you. Why your place was broken into. In other words, because what... you don't know what is linked to what, right? You know...
K：但，到目前為止你所做的和最近的調查，那可能與發生在你身上的有關。為什麼你的住所被搜查。在另一方面，因為什麼...你不知道何什麼有關係，對不？你知道的...
Anthony: Well... [sighs] I could tell you this. Whoever stole my hard drive now knows everything about the other investigation that I've been conducting. I have found evidence, based on information that was provided to me from one of my sources that worked at Lockheed Martin, that we're developing some type of a system, a low-Earth orbiting system, a defense system, to combat this... this space war that's going to be conducted between the Chinese and us. But here's the interesting thing. It's a very complex tale. Okay? It's not about us versus the Chinese. This is not a human-versus-human war that I'm being told about. They're telling me that the Chinese are being used as puppets. There's some higher level group, this alien-human hybrid group. I know it sounds crazy, Kerry, but you have to hear me out.
A：好的...我能把這告訴你。無論誰偷了我的硬碟，和現在知道我做的其他的調查。我發現了證據，基於[來自Lockheed Martin]我被提供的資訊源，即我們我們在發展某種類型的系統-低軌道防禦衛星系統，是去...戰鬥，太空戰爭將會被預料在中國與美國之間發生。但這是有趣的事。它是一個複雜的傳奇故事。好不？它不是關於我們對抗中國人。這不是我被告訴的一個人類-對抗-人類的戰爭。他們告訴我，中國人是被用作代理。因為有更高級的集團，那是外星混血兒。我知道這很瘋狂，Kerry，但你必須把我的這些話聽完。
Kerry: No. Absolutely... No. I have whistleblower testimony to this effect.
K：不，絕對的...不，我有爆料者證人這影響。
Anthony: Yes. So, they have -- oh my God -- so, they're... I am being told it is...
A：是的，所以，他們是---我的天啊---所以，他們是...我被告訴它是...
Kerry: That exact thing... That exact thing I have been told by a very credible whistleblower.
K：非常的事....我被告訴這是一個非常值得相信的爆料者。
Anthony: So the... you're trying to...
A：所以...你是試圖...
Kerry: Now, at least a year ago, that a new race of beings has come into our area of the galaxy, and that they are trying... are backing the Chinese, and that they are trying to put the Chinese in charge of the world.
K：現在，最少一年前，有一個新的種族到達我們銀河系的這個區域，和他們試圖...回歸中國，和他們試圖使中國管理地球。
Anthony: Well, this is, this is the reason why. And this is... Now, this is what I've been told. Literally again, any one of the three super powers. And there are one of three super powers. There's what? There's only three countries to worry about -- the United States, the Russians and the Chinese. I was told that the Chinese met all the prerequisites. One, they decimated their ecology. They have no fresh water. They've been buying fresh water from the Argentines and the Brazilians as a commodity. They have no natural resources. Their entire population lives along their coastline. They have created this massive level of deforestation that's turned all the central part of the country into essentially a desert. So, they have systematically been lowering... keeping their currency at a lowered value over the past 20 years. And then in that same time, they used their communist structure to subjugate their people such that school children are prisoners and the elderly, just about everybody, have established their new emerging middle class, has been working in the manufacturing sector.
A：好的，這就是原因。和這是...現在，這是我被告訴的。字面上的意思，三個超級大國中的任何一個。那是什麼？只有三個國家需要擔心--美國、俄羅斯和中國。我被告訴中國人遇到全部prerequities。以，他們毀壞他們的生態。他們沒有乾淨水源。他們已經從Argentine和Brazilian買新鮮的水。他們沒有自然資源。他們整個人口都活在他們的海岸線。他們砍掉許多森林致使自己的國家中部變成沙漠。所以，他們系統地下降....使他們的流通貨幣的價值低於過去的二十年。和同時，他們用委員會結構管理他們的人，例如學校孩子就如個監犯和更老的人，就是如其他人，在被確立的緊急的中產階級，已經在生產部門工作著。[譯者注：很多同樣問題不是在美國發生麼？除了沙漠化]
Why? So that they can... they can essentially flood the global market with their products. What does that do? It, it... while they maintained this lowered level of... this lowered level from their currency, they are yet becoming extremely wealthy. The United States is already 14 trillion dollars in debt to the Chinese. There's no gold in the U.S. gold reserve. You already know that. There are people that have outright told us, they haven't seen gold in the Fort Knox since the 1970s. Why is that important? It's because the Chinese, since 2009, have been conducting a campaign to get various countries off of the international dollar standard. Why? Because the minute they do that, they're going to trigger a financial collapse. The dollar's going to collapse, and we're going to see a domino effect, where all these other countries are going to slide into these deep economic depressions. And what that's going to do, is it's going to open the doors for a country like the United States... we're going to have to [re?]open the doors and allow the Chinese to come in essentially as our overlords.
為什麼？所以他們能夠...他們能用產品氾濫世界市場。那樣做是為了什麼？它...他們維持低水平的.....更低水平的現鈔，他們仍然變得異常富有。美國已經把14萬億的負債賣給了中國人。美國完全沒有黃金儲備。你已經知道的。有外線的人告訴我們，他們在70年代的Fort Knox已經看不到黃金。為什麼這重要？因為中國人在2009年尾，已經主導各國來製造對美國的美元的國際貨幣戰。為什麼？因為這分鐘他們做的，他們預料將會有一個經濟崩潰。美元將會崩潰，和我們將會看到一個骨牌效應，這些國家的經濟將會掉進大蕭條。和什麼將會繼續---為國家經濟準備後門，像美國那樣....我們將會不得不打開大門，允許中國人本質上作為我們的超載[做替死鬼]。
But listen, this is not about racism. It's about nationalism. I'm being told... I keep thinking inside, I keep thinking, oh, it's us against the Chinese, and this contact of mine is saying, you've got to get outside this human-versus-human paradigm, because the Chinese are being controlled Li Ka-shing out of Hong Kong. He's the most richest person in all of Asia, and he's a part of this Illuminati bloodline. He owns the Chinese communist government. He practically owns the Chinese military. Another scary fact that he told me, is that Chinese military has 200 million men, whereas the combined forces of the United States alone is barely at 500,000 men and women. That's a scary thought. In 2007, they demonstrated that they could essentially blast a satellite out of low-Earth orbit. And that was a demonstration to us, because they know that we're developing this new project, which I will tell you about later. This is that low-Earth orbiting defense project that I was talking about, that this person from Lockheed Martin informed me of. It's a very important project. The other thing, is that they demonstrated that their stealth technology is now as sophisticated as our own, that they sailed into the central... They used one of their submarines to penetrate a classified naval exercise, and then they bragged about it afterwards, and it scared the hell out of our military brass, because now they know, hey. They're almost on equal footing with us.
但聽著，這不是種族主義。這是國際主義。我被告訴的....我一直在自己思考著。好的，它是我們對抗著中國人，和聯繫我的說過，你必須離開人類對抗人類的範例，因為中國人正在被香港的李嘉誠控制著，這是亞洲最富有的人，和他屬於光明會的分支血系。他擁有中國政府。他實際上擁有中國軍隊。這是他告訴我的另外一個可怕事實。中國軍隊現在有2億人，而美國的聯合勢力只有50萬人。這是一個可怕的想法。在2007年，他們證明了他們可以摧毀地球低軌道衛星。和這摧毀能力是用來對抗我們，因為他們知道他們正在做這新的工程，我將會告訴你這是什麼工程。這是地球低軌道防禦工程，這是來自Lockheed Martin的人告訴我的。這是非常重要的工程。另外一件事，是他們論證他們的秘密的科技現在是高端/精巧/高性能如我們，所以他們大舉進入中央....他們用他們的海底去通過一個分類海軍的訓練，和然後他們自我誇耀關於後來的，和它非常害怕我們的軍隊高級官員/大人物，因為他們現在知道，他們差不多趕上我們了。（譯者注：記憶中官方公佈軍隊只有200萬人吧？哪來2億？）
Kerry: Okay...
K：好的....
Anthony: So, there's a lot of information that I have here, but I need to put it into the proper context.
A：所以，我現在有很多資訊，但我需要適當使其變成適當的文字。
Kerry: Okay. But, we are recording this, Anthony, and this is an opportunity to at least open the doors in this regard. And I'm very interested, because some of your information is cross-correlating with my whistleblower testimony. So, that makes it all the more important, because if there is indeed an invading race of beings who are controlling the Chinese, then people need to know about that. And...
K：好的，但，我們在記錄這，Anthony，和最少這是一個機會在這打開一扇門。和我非常感興趣，因為你的資訊是和我的爆料者證人互相證明。所以，這會使它變得更重要，因為如果牽涉到一個入侵種族在控制中國人，然後人們需要知道那些事。和....
Anthony: The reason why, the reason why they selected the Chinese is (1) they met all the prerequisites [with you]; (2) the Chinese -- remember, this is all being done to facilitate an arrival event, an arrival event. At the end of 2012 is, we're going to see... we're going to see a mass landing of these E.T. visitors. Okay? Now, here's the thing -- 2012 marks the execution phase for this arrival plan, and it's going to culminate in 2015. Now, I'm hearing two stories here so far, though. There are two possible outcomes. So far, I've heard that the first one, is that they're going to enact a depopulation campaign to bring the world's population down to 500 million. Bear in mind that the Chinese military alone is 200 million. I was told that the Chinese are going to kill their own people first. This is what I was told. They're literally going to kill their own people first. There's going to be plans for a 200 million-strong elitist population -- these are the alien-human hybrids. They look like us, they walk like us, they talk like us. That's going... That... And then there's going to be 100 million normal humans who are going to be the slave class, for the remain... for those.. for these elitists that are going to remain. So... the main rea...
A：原因是，為什麼他們選擇中國人是因為（1）XXX；（2）中國人--記住，這是所有存有做為登陸事件準備，在12年末，我們走著瞧....我們將會看到ET訪問者的大規模登陸，對不？現在，有一件事--2012年被記為登陸計畫的執行階段，和高潮將會在2015年。現在，我目前聽到兩個故事。有兩個可能性。目前，我聽到第一個，是他們打算製造削減人口的戰爭，致使人口削減至5億。在記憶中中國軍隊已經有2億人。我被告訴中國人會先打算殺掉自己的人口。這是我被告訴的。他們字面上打算削減自己的人口。還有計劃為2億最強的混血精英人口--這些是外星混血兒。他們的樣貌、行為、言談都和我們一樣。那將會...和1億普通人類將會被歸為奴隸階級--那些剩下的...對於那些剩餘的精英分子。所以...主要原因...
Kerry: Okay. When you say that... All right. Let me stop you right now, because you're making several claims here, and I need to get a little bit more of the background behind the claims. So, when you say there's going to be an arrival event at the end of 2012, who told you this, and why are you convinced that this is correct?
K：好的，當你說這的時候....啊.讓我停下來發言一下，因為你在這裏做了幾個聲明，和我需要聲明的背景資料。所以，當你說這將會在12年末發生登錄事件，是誰告訴你的，和為什麼你相信這是正確的？
Anthony: Because this is the one that worked at Lockheed Martin. He worked on a project called LEONID -- Low Earth Orbit Nano-Satellite Interceptive Defense. It's a system of nano satellites that are low-Earth orbit. They are... uses alien technology. It is a highly sophisticated and there is a fleet of ships, of small ships, that use... telemetry that comes in from the satellite network to protect the... essentially to protect the United States and its allies from two things -- incoming ICBMs and (2) from -- and this is what he says -- from ships that are coming into our orbit, Earth orbit, from outer space, is what I'm told.
A：因為這是一個在Lockheed Martin的人說的。他為Leonid工程工作的---地球低軌道nano干涉防禦衛星。他們是...用外星科技。這是一個高端的和敏捷的飛船，小飛船，那用....用衛星網路來控制，去保護...必須保護美國和他的外星盟友--包括ICBMs和他說的--從自飛船來到我們軌道，地球軌道，來自外太空的東西，這就是我被告訴的。
Kerry: Okay. Well that makes sense. So, this particular engineer obviously is... They're still alive?
K：好的。我應該感覺到那時什麼。所以，這特別的工程師明顯地...他們還活著嗎？
Anthony: He's still alive. He's no longer part of Lockheed Martin. He's AWOL. Let me tell you something. When I met with him, I met with him outside of an abandoned McDonald's in Montague in Mountainview, California. And there was a reason why he took me there. We found a parking spot, and he said, this is the very spot where my best friend, a fellow engineer, so ultimately shot himself in the head.
A：他還活著。他不再為Lockheed Martin工作。他是AWOL。讓我告訴你一些東西。當我遇上他的時候，在一間加利福利亞的Montague廢棄的麥當勞店外的山上。和他是有原因把我帶到哪兒。我們發現一個停泊點，和他說，這是我的最好的朋友的停泊點，一個失意的工程師，所以他有很多特別的想法。
Kerry: Oh, I remember that. I remember that story, because I'm from the Bay area, so that story stuck in my mind. That was a very suspicious story. Yeah, okay, go on.
K：噢，我記得那事。我記得這故事，因為我是來自海灣區的，所以這個故事對我的印象很深。這是非常奇趣的故事，所以，請繼續。
Anthony: That's right. So, we met there. We began talking at one o'clock in the morning. And by four o'clock, I was over there in the Bay area. I was driving in from Sacramento. It was absolutely necessary that I needed to meet him in person, and that's where we met. So... one by one, they've been killing off engineers. Those people that wanted to come forward. And... people, he said, anybody that asked questions about the project that they were developing, mysteriously disappeared, or are found dead. So, once he realized he was next, because he couldn't keep his mouth shut, he decided to go AWOL. So...
A：這是對的，所以我們在那兒相遇。在早上我們開始談論，從一點談到四點鐘，我去到海灣區的那兒。我開車從Sacramento來。這是絕對必要的，我需要單獨地去見他，和那裏我們遇上了。所以...一對以，他們已經殺死工程師。那些人想繼續。和...人，他說，任何人問及這工程都會神秘消失或者被發現死亡。所以，一旦他意識到他將會是下一個，因為他不能封住他自己的口，所以他決定去AWOL，所以...
Kerry: Okay. Is he safe at this time?
K：好的，他現在安全了嗎？
Anthony: He is safe. He is safe. As a matter of fact, he is very safe.
A：他現在安全。實際上，他現在非常安全。
Kerry: Okay.
K：好的。
Anthony: And he also told me, he also told me, that it took them 30 years, but they have a Chinese defector who has been feeding them information about what is happening over there in China and what they're planning. So, this is how he got all this information before he left that project.
A：他也告訴過我，這工程花了三十年，但他們有一個中國的叛變者已經告訴他們消息關於中國將會發生什麼和他們計畫在做什麼。所以，這是他離開工程之前得到的全部資訊。
Kerry: Right. Okay. So, you're saying Lockheed Martin or just his... a group associated with him, got this defector to give them information?
K：對。好的，所以，你是在說Lockheed Martin或者他的...和他有關係的集團，得到這個叛變者去得到他們的資訊？
Anthony: His group within Lockheed Martin, but they worked with the Department of Defense.
A：他的集團是在Lockheed Martin裏面做，但是和國防部合作。
Kerry: I... Okay. Uh, wow. Well, this is very explosive information that you're giving me here. And I have to say that, again, it correlates with my whistleblower testimony. There is another aspect which is on an intuitive level, that I have been given information that the satellites are a very key... to what's going to be happening in the future. And that the satellites...
K：我.....好的，喔，好的，你給的..這是非常勁爆的資訊。和我又有話想說。它與我的爆料者又互相作證了。這是另一個在直覺上的方面，我已經被給予關於這些衛星的資訊，是非常關鍵....對於將來會發生的事情。和這些衛星....
Anthony: [There is a] danger. The reason why they're coming out about this project -- first of all, you have to ask yourself this -- why would they be disclosing the foundation of this project, [which] supposedly is the interests of protecting us? Well, they went kind of haywire with it, and it's no longer exactly a safe project to be operating. These things are self-autonomous. These craft... the craft are self-autonomous. They use artificial intelligence to make decisions on their own. Just take Skynet from the 'Predator' movie... or from the 'Terminator' movie...
A：那是一個危險。原因是為什麼他們會離開這工程---首先，你需要問你自己---為什麼他們揭露這工程的建立，可能為了保護我們自己？好的，他們去過它的haywire，和這不再是非常安全進行的工程。這些東西是自我控制的。這些飛行器...這些飛行器是自己控制的。他們用AI去運作。只是很像Predator這電影裏面的天網...或者來自Terminator電影.....
Kerry: Exactly.
K：非常精確。
Anthony: The only thing you need to understand, is that these nano satellites are self-repairable and self-replicatable.
A：這是唯一你需要理解的東西，這些nano衛星是能自我修復和自我複製的。
Kerry: Wow. Okay. Yes.
K：喔，是的。
Anthony: And I have all the technical specifications that you need to know exactly how it's done. I have them all.
A：和我有全部技術特徵你可以精確地知道它是如何運作。
Kerry: You're kidding.
K：你是在開玩笑吧。
Anthony: No. I have all of it.
A：不，我真的擁有全部資料。
Kerry: Okay. Well, that's, that's actually... that's actually it, I mean, right there, I have to say. Because I was given this information about the satellites, and that actually they're going to be shot down at a certain point. But by... right....
K：好的，那實際上...實際上它，正合我意，我必須說。因為我被給予這關於衛星的資訊，和那實際上他們打算射擊在一個特定點，但...對...
Anthony: Right. Do you want to know, do you want to know who this technology came from? Dulce. It came out of Dulce. This is part of a technology exchange program with the greys at Dulce who gave this technology, gave this knowledge to Lockheed Martin and several other interested contractors, a list of who I have.
A：對。你是否想知道，你是否想知道來自誰的科技？道西，它來自道西。這是與灰人的科技交換專案，我有那些被給予知識的人在Lockheed Martin和其他幾個興趣合約者的名單。
Kerry: Okay. Incredible. All right. As far as this goes, and as far as your contact with regard to this, does he talk about the race of beings, who they are, where they came from, anything like that?
K：好的，不可相信。好了。直到目前，直到你與接觸到這，他是否有與那種族的存在談論過他們是誰，他們來自哪里，或者類似的問題？
Anthony: Yup. This is a progenitor race that the greys mentioned. And these are essentially the... so, now here's the neat thing that I needed to show it to you. Remember, I mentioned the Chinese defector? Remember, I mentioned the Chinese defector? Hello?
A：是的，灰人說到一個祖先種族。和這些必須的....所以，現在這裏有整理好的東西，我需要給你看的。記住，我提到一個中國叛變者？記得那個中國叛變者嗎？你還在聽嗎？
Kerry: The Chinese defector?
K：中國叛變者？
Anthony: Yeah. Remember, I mentioned the Chinese defector that they have?
A：是的，記住，我提到他們有中國的叛變者？
Kerry: Yes.
K：是的。
Anthony: He told them that there is a possibility and there is a little concern among these alien-human hybrids that when those... these E.T., these progenitors return, that they're actually going to kill off this alien hybrid race that is destroying the planet.
A：他告訴他們有一個可能，和那是有點關注外星混血兒...這些ET...這些祖先的回歸，那他們實際上打算殺掉‘摧毀地球的外星混血兒’。
Kerry: Why do they think that?
K：為什麼他們想這麼做？
Anthony: What he says is that there's a strong possibility that this progenitor race is returning to Earth. They're going to kill off the alien-human hybrids and they're going to dismantle all nuclear stockpiles on Earth. That they're going to prevent us from killing ourselves and that they're not going to allow this depopulation campaign to occur. Listen, one of the things that this guy told me. He said he had a conversation with this Chinese defector before he left the program. And the Chinese defector for the [adopting a view?] says, 'You know, this whole concept of we're overpopulating the world is complete B.S., because if you took every human being alive and placed them in the state of Texas, there would be enough room for them to live there.' Do you realize that? That's what he told this guy. So, you have to put all of this in perspective. He's saying that this propaganda was being fed to all of these people who were persuaded that all the world's being overpopulated. We have to kill one another.
A：他說的是一個很大的可能，祖先種族會回歸地球。他們打算殺掉所有混血兒，和他們打算關閉地球上的核反應爐。他們打算阻止我們互相殘殺，和他們沒有打算讓人口削減的戰爭發生。聽著，其中一個傢伙告訴我。他說他在離開工程之前，和那個中國叛變者對話過。和中國叛變者對於[解釋一種觀點？]說，‘你知道的，我們對於地球人口過剩的觀點完全是B.S.，因為如果你看到每個人類的生存狀況和把他們與得薩斯州的人相比，對於他們來說是足夠的。’你是否意識到？那就是他告訴這傢伙的事情。所以，你必須把這些放入你的預期。他說這預議程被灌注到全部訴說地球人口過剩的人。導致我們必須因此殺死他人。
Kerry: [laughs]
K：[笑]。
Anthony: Listen, the United States has a nuclear stockpile which can destroy the planet many times over.
A:聽著，美利堅合眾國有一個核武器庫能把地球摧毀好幾次。
Kerry: Right.
K：對的。
Anthony: You're aware of that. Now, when you put things in perspective, the South Africans, the Indians, the Pakistanis, the North Koreans, the Chinese, the English, the Israelis, the French. Gee, how many countries have nuclear stockpiles? So, he... but he says that this Chinese is giving him information that's saying that they're now thinking of turning this technology or commandeering this leading edge technology. The Chinese are trying to figure out a way to commandeer this technology away from the United States. And use it, to possibly, in the event that these arriving progenitors are going to kill them off, they'll use it against them. So, it's just a weird complex web of information. Remember, the greys were created by these progenitors.
A：你意識到了吧。現在，當你把這當做你的預期，南非人、印度人、巴基斯坦人、南韓人、中國人、英國人、以色列人和法國人。看，有多少國家有核武器？所以，他...但他說中國人放出他的消息，那是說他們現在想翻轉這技術或者主導邊緣科技。中國人嘗試去從美國去佔有這技術。和用它，可能，在這事件中，這些到達的祖先打算把他們殺掉，他們將會用它對抗他們。所以，這只是一個怪異的複雜的資訊。記住，灰人是被這些祖先們創造的。
Kerry: Right.
K：是的。
Anthony: Who's to say that's there is not a backdoor system in place with this LEONID project, which is technology that's been given to the U.S. defense contractors and [is hatching out of the thins for this fabulous?] whole project. Maybe the greys are... maybe they'll say that these arriving parties, they're going to be able to commandeer it or... I don't know. There's just so much information. I have all of it and I'm compiling it right now. I'm going to try and get this information out in two months' time.
A：說這些的人不是leonid工程的後門爆料，那些科技被給予美國去保護接觸者和[is hatching out of the thins for this fabulous?]整個工程。可能灰人是...可能他們會說這些是到達的參與者，他們將會獲得它和...我不知道。那只是太多資訊了。我擁有它的全部和我正在對比中。我打算花兩個月去嘗試和取得資訊。
Kerry: Okay. Now, this whole subject is... gone from the Dulce subject to the Chinese and to this race of beings, etc., which you're calling the 'progenitors,' which is, again... This is what your colonel... Isn't it... Wasn't he a colonel that you... your witness in your book, 'UFO Highway' was talking about, as well?
K：好的，現在，整個工程是...道西工程出於對中國人和這些種族等，那些你叫祖先的是，又...這是什麼樣的上校...是否它...他是否一個上校...你書中的證人，’UFO高速公路‘也曾談論過？
Anthony: Yeah.
A：是的。
Kerry: He referred to them as 'progenitors.' Isn't that right?
K：他把他們叫做祖先。那沒錯吧？
Anthony: That's right. That's right.
A：對的。
Kerry: Okay. But at this point, this is okay to release as part of this interview that we're doing right here?
K：好的，在這點上，我能把這部分訪談發佈嗎？
Anthony: Yes.
A：是的。
Kerry: Okay. Okay. Is there anything else about this race of beings that you know, that we could include here, that would clarify their relationship with the Chinese and possibility what they may be planning and the timing of it.
K：好的。據你所知，還有什麼之外的東西關於這個種族，會把他們與中國人的關係歸類和他們可能計畫做什麼的可能性及其時間。
Anthony: Well, I know that at the end of 2012, is when this mass landing is supposed to occur. This is what I'm being told. And there's nothing we can do about it and it's going to happen. That's what I'm being told. It will mark the execution phase of this plan for this arrival event and it will culminate by 2015.
A：好，我知道在2012年末，據猜測會有大規模登陸地球的事件發生。這是我被告訴的事。和我不知道將會發生什麼。這也是我被告訴的事。這計畫是為了準備下一執行階段的登陸事件和它的高潮將會在2015年。
Kerry: Okay. Who will land?
K：好的，誰將會登陸？
Anthony: These progenitors. These ann... Why don't you just call them 'Anunnaki?'
A：這些祖先...為什麼你不只叫他們Anunnaki？
Kerry: Okay. What do they look like? Do you know?
K：好的，你知道他們是什麼樣子嗎？
Anthony: I don't know. I don't know. The colonel gave me inf... The colonel gave me information with what the progenitors are supposed to [look like]. That's all I have to go on.
A：我不知道。這個上校給我的資訊...是祖先們大概可能是什麼樣子。這就是我所必須做的。
Kerry: Okay. This, this sort of... I don't know. Is LEONID the top secret name of the Lockheed Martin program for these low-Earth orbiting satellite, nano satellites? Is that right?
K：好的，這，很多我都不知道。是以Leonid名字的一個絕密的Lockheed Martin工程的地球低軌道衛星，nano衛星？是不是？
Anthony: Yes. Yeah, I believe it. Yeah.
A：是的，我相信它。
Kerry: Okay. But you do know that this is the name of the man who supposedly, who was... and we believe, a plant anyway, who supposedly discovered Elenin.
K：好的，但你是否知道一個人的名字...那是，我們相信，一個星體，發現Elenin的人。
Anthony: No. I did not know that.
A：不，我不知道。
Kerry: Yeah. And that that supposedly Elenin is also associated with LEONID. So... I don't know what the status [is] on Elenin. I have to get in touch with Richard Hoagland, who I'm going to be talking with shortly. But he's going to be very, very interested to hear that the code name of this particular project is LEONID.
K：是的，和Elenin可能和Leonid有關係。所以...我不知道Elenin上的情況。我已經和Richard Hoagland，我打算談論一下那個人。但他特別非常有興趣聽到關於Leonid工程的消息。
Anthony: Yeah.
A：是的。
Kerry: That actually... That may be a key to unlocking what this craft, which is a craft, LEONID, a planetoid, a directed planetoid. Whether it was destroyed, split in half, whether it's still in our solar system or not, I don't know. I know it supposedly still is. But...
K：那實際上...那可能是一個關鍵去解開這飛行器，那個飛行器叫Leonid，一個星體型的，本身就是一個星體。是否它被摧毀、分解到剩下一半，它是否仍在我們太陽系統，我並不知道。我不知道它是否仍然是...但...
Anthony: Well, LEONID is a multi-faceted weapon system. It's a... It comprises many parts. There's not just on
e part to it. You have this nano satellite network. You have the parent satellite network called 'MOTHER,' which is above it, which provides resources to the nano satellites. I'll explain more of that to you at a later time. There is the X-47B type craft that they are using called 'interceptors.' Remember the X-37B, when it went into orbit? This is a scale model of the space shuttle that is owned by the Air Force. Do you recall that?
A：好，Leonid是一個交互面向武器系統。它是一個...可以分成許多部分。很難用一個詞形容它。你有nano衛星網路。你知道另一個衛星網路叫“母親”，是提供資源給nano衛星的。我遲點會給你更多解釋。有一種叫X-47B類型的飛行器，他們叫這“干涉者”。記住這X-37B，當它進入軌道？這是一個空軍擁有的空間飛行模型。你是否記得？
Kerry: Uh...
K：嗯...
Anthony: [What was that?]
A：那是什麼？
Kerry: Could you repeat that?
K：你能否重複一遍？
Anthony: Yeah. There was a scale model... view of a craft. It looks like a scale model of a space shuttle. It's called the X-37B. It's spent 287 days in low-Earth orbit. Do you recall that? It's owned by the Air Force. Do you want me to tell you what it was doing out there for 287 days?
A：是的，這是一個外殼模型...看飛行器的樣子。看起來像一個太空穿梭機模型。叫做X-37B。在287日週期的地球低軌道上。你是否記得？這是空軍擁有的。你是否想我告訴你為什麼是287日週期的？
Kerry: Okay, yes.
K：是的。
Anthony: You could take a guess as to what it was doing up there for 287 days.
A：你能否猜為什麼是被做成287日？
Kerry: So, you're suggesting that perhaps it was... I don't know.
K：所以，你暗示可能是.....我不知道。
Anthony: Deploying... It was deploying the basis for the nano satellite network. Yes, it was.
A：部署...它是基於nano衛星網路，就是這樣。
Kerry: The bases... the bases...?
K：基地...？
Anthony: I met a woman... I met a woman...
A：我遇上一個女士....我遇上一個女士....
Kerry: Okay, wait one second.
K：好的，我等一會兒。
Anthony: ...in [Kirtland]...
A：在Kirtland....
Kerry: Okay. Wait one second. It was deploying the 'bases'for the nano satellite network? You mean, in other words...
K：好的，等一會兒。它是為nano衛星網路的部署的基地？你的意思是？
Anthony: Yes. The basis. The foundation. The groundwork for the nano satellite network. It's not the nano satellites themselves.
A：是的，基本上。創立。nano衛星網路的地基系統。它不是nano衛星自己。
Kerry: Okay. Is it possible that there are space platforms that are... were put in place, as well?
K：是的。它可能是空間平臺....也放在某個地方？
Anthony: Yes. There's a parent... There's a parent network of satellites called 'MOTHER' already up there, [which] I believe provide resources and materials for these nano satellites which are self-replicated or self-repairable.
A：是的，那是兩個...兩個叫做MOTHER的雙重衛星網路被設立，我相信是提供資源和材料給這些nano衛星進行自我複製和自我修復。
Kerry: Okay. When you're talking about this, you were just about to say that you met a woman. Can you continue?
K：好的，當你在談論這個的時候，你是否只是說關於你遇到的一個女士。你能繼續？
Anthony: I met a woman whose husband was a software engineer also, at Lockheed Martin. He was part of the program. He is now missing. Before he went missing, he had told his wife that they had successfully launched the nano satellite network that he was developing. He was working on the low-level language stuff of these nano satellites. So that they can communicate.
A：我遇到一個丈夫是軟體工程師的妻子，為Lockheed Martin工作的。他是這個項目的一部分。他現在失蹤了。在他失蹤之前，他告訴妻子他們已經成功發射他設計的nano衛星網路。他是設計nano衛星的底層語言程式的。所以他們能通訊。
Kerry: Okay. Is it...
K：是的，是否它...
Anthony: Anyhow...
A：不管怎麼樣....
Kerry: Is it possible, are you still in touch with her? Would she want to go on the record or not?
K:是否它可能，你是否仍然在和她接觸？她是否想繼續記錄或者不？
Anthony: No. No. She is completely out of the picture.
A：不，不，她完全在整個事件之外。
Kerry: Okay.
K：好的。
Anthony: She's gone.
A：她離開了。
Kerry: Okay. And what about her husband? Has he been found? Is he missing permanently? How long has he been gone?
K：好的，和關於她的丈夫？是否他已經發現？是否他永久消失？他消失多久？
Anthony: My source says he's dead.
A：我的訊息源說他已經死了。
Kerry: Okay.
K：好的。
Anthony: And this has been since 2009. Right? So, while [the progenitors are] returning, maybe the greys -- I don't know, we're we so stupid, that we're accepting technology from these greys for this critical defense system, that we’re going to put it into orbit and not expect that there might be some type of a backdoor entry, for whoever's arriving, to understand the technology and how to take it over and use it against us?
A：和這是自從2009年的事，對不？所以當[祖先們]回歸，可能這些灰人--我不知道，我們是非常愚蠢，從灰人獲得技術區發展重要的防禦系統，我們打算把它放到軌道上，並沒有預料這將會完全是[登陸地球者]的某種類型的後門，沒有去理解這科技和如何接管它和被用來對付我們？
Kerry: Absolutely. Well, that's... That's all very true.
K：絕對的。好的，那是...非常真實的。
Anthony: We need to be... Yeah, we need to be aware of that. So, I mean, it's important that we understand what games that we're possibly [putting] getting ourselves in.
A：我們需要去...是的，我們需要意識到這個問題。所以，我的意思是，它是重要的，我們必須把我們自己的可能性放進這個遊戲。
Kerry: Okay. Well, let me again bring out a whistleblower, 'Mr. X.' We called him 'Mr. X.' He actually died suddenly of a heart attack, a year or two ago, and he was a person who had investigated. He had worked for a military company in which he was correlating data from their records that, basically, the data led to the fact that the greys were here, that we... our military was interacting with them, and that there was -- he said -- that they said there was an event coming in 2012, that was kind of a landing event. So, that is another piece of information that you're revealing, that cross-correlates with one of our whistleblowers. Now, we believe that he was taken out. This is not commonly known, but it is something that we have mentioned on occasion. And now, what you're saying actually leads me to believe that this is the reason he was taken out, is because he had this information.
K：好的，讓我帶出某個爆料者，X先生。我們叫他X先生。他實際上死於突然來襲的心臟病，於一到兩年之前，和他是一人調查組。他是為軍事公司工作的，所以他能得到他們的許多記錄，那基本上，這些資料會導向一個事實：灰人在這兒，那我們...我們的軍隊和他們在互動，和那--他說---他們說將會在2012年有一個事件發生，那會是某種類型的登陸事件。所以，那是與你相同的另外一遠的消息，我們的爆料者的資訊中交叉點。現在，我們相信，他已經被排除。這不是普通的瞭解，但它是一些我們提到的事件。和現在，你說的實際上是在把我導向到相信他已經被排除，是因為他擁有這個資訊。
Anthony: [I always thought he knew.] And this is the reason why I called you tonight, Kerry. Somebody did something to me. My face is paralyzed, and it's not Bell's Palsy. It's not from a stroke. I don't have any infection of any kind that could cause this. Somebody did something to me. The blood tests are positive that I have been subjected to some type of a neurological bio-agent. Doctors are telling me they can't even identify it. If it were rat poison or wasp poison or something, commercial-grade, they would be able to identify it from its chemical signature. What I have in my system, they don't know what the hell it is, but they know it's attacking the nerves of my face.
A：[我一直通過他知道的。]和這是我今晚打電話給你的原因。Kerry。一些人想對我做一些事。我的臉部被癱瘓，和它不是Bell's Palsy。它不是來自stroke。我不知道這導致的任何影響。一些人想對我做一些事。血液測試時顯性的，所以我遭受了某種類型的神經類生化標記。醫生告訴我他們甚至不能定義它。如果它是rat/wasp毒藥或者其他的，交涉等級的，他們將能夠定義它的化學結構。在我的系統中，他們不知道這到底是什麼，但他們知道它正在攻擊我臉部的神經。
It makes me think back to this Ukrainian president that was subjected to some type of poison or something. But I think it happened just recently. [ed. note Ukrainian president was poisoned on 9-5-2004] I think it was the Ukrainian president.
它使我想回去吉魯亞總統遭受過的某種類型毒藥。但我想它最近已經在生效。[ed.吉魯亞總統在2004年9月5日被下毒]我想它是和吉魯亞總統的類似。
Kerry: Okay. Uh... [sighs]. Okay. So, I am going to try to find help for you, right away, and in the meantime, I will try actually to release this. And I believe I need to go back. I'm not the greatest audio editor in the world, but I will go back and try to take out the piece that you've asked me to take out. In the meantime, if people want to reach you, how can they reach you, in order to contact you in regard to healers they may have... they may know of, etc., etc.?
K：好的，嗯...好的，所以我打算為你尋找幫助，立即的，我會嘗試發佈這消息。和我相信我需要回顧一些東西。我不是這個世界上最好的音頻編輯者，但我將會回顧和嘗試把你的那部分消息放出去。同時，如果人們想去接觸你，他們如何能夠找到你，為了去治療你...他們可能知道等等？
Anthony: Kerry, at my website, UFOHighway.com, there's a button there that says 'contact us.' There is a secure form that they... They're 100% anonymous. It's 100% confidential. I never disclose their data to [anyone]. That whoever contacts me, their privacy is paramount. So, there's a form there that they use, that goes directly to me. It goes directly to my email, a secured email address. They just go to my website, UFOHighway.com and click on the 'contact us' button, they could reach me.
A：Kerry，在我的網站，ufohighway.com，有一個按鈕說聯繫我們。這是一個安全的方式...他們是100%的無名者。100%可信的。我從沒揭露他們的資料給其他人。任何聯繫我的人，他們的私隱將會被保護。所以，那兒有一個表格，可以直接通知我。它是直接發到我的郵件，安全的郵箱地址。他們只是去我的網站，ufohignway.com和點擊“聯繫我”按鈕就能找到我。
Kerry: Okay. So, so, is there anything else that you want to add here to this discussion, and if not, then what I want to say here is that, we should do this in person, Anthony, and have this exact same discussion with whatever else you would like, in person. So, please do contact me tomorrow or as soon as you feel able, and let's set that up.
K：好的，所以無論你想加到我的討論中，或者不的話，然後我在這裏想說一些話，我們應該個人完成，Anthony，和將會有一個與你的詳細討論，個人方面的。所以，請明天聯繫我如果你覺得你能夠做到，讓我們解決它。
Anthony: Yeah. It's amazing that we were able to, outside of the Dulce periphery, listen to this whole Chinese matter so easily. But there's a ton of Dulce data that I have still. But, and we should do that another time. One thing I would like to point out, is that it's November 4th right now. By the first week of January in 2012, I am planning to release all the information that I have on this Chinese matter. It's a major issue. It's holding a threat to the entire planet, and I have so much more information that we can cover. But the first week of January, I am releasing that information, either to my website, either to a PDF, either to a.... I don't know. Everything that I have is going to be made public.
A：是的，我驚奇我們能夠，在道西periphery外輕易地聽到中國的事情。但我仍有太多的道西數據。但，我需要另外一些時間去完成。有一件事我想指出，現在是11月4日。在2012的1月份，我會計畫釋放所有關於中國的事情。這是一個主要的問題。因為它威脅了整個星球，和我有更多被掩蓋的資訊。但在一月的第一個星期，我會釋放資訊，或者在我的網站上，或者PDF的形式，或者以....我不知道的方式。任何我知道的將會被釋放給公眾。
Kerry: Okay. Could you please...
K：好的，請問你能夠....
Anthony: Right now, someone has got something to me that is affecting my health. I need to check out whatever is happening to me, so that I can reach my goal of getting my information out.
A：現在，一些人能夠影響我的健康。我需要檢查我身上正在發生什麼事，和我需要達到我釋放這些資訊的目標（譯者注：所以不能死...？）
Kerry: Okay. Could you please get that information to... You need to send it out to 12 individuals that you trust.
K：好的，你能否把這些資訊....發給12個你相信的個人。
Anthony: Yes.
A：好的。
Kerry: And ask them to hold onto it, that in the event that anything happens to you, they need to go public. Okay?
K：和叫他們保存著它，和無論你身上發生什麼事，他們讓然能夠走進公眾。行嗎？
Anthony: Yes.
A：好的。
Kerry: So, these should be as high-profile and as trust-worthy individuals as you can possibly come across, but you should do that immediately, if you haven't already done so.
K：好的，這些能夠高度自己計畫和信任的個人可能交叉，但你需要立即去做，如果你還沒做過。
Anthony: I'll do it soon.
A：我將會最快做。
Kerry: Okay.
K：好的。
Anthony: Soon as possible. Soon as possible.
A：盡一切可能。
Kerry: Okay, thank you. Well, Anthony, I'd love to see you get healed right away from this nerve agent or whatever it is that you've come in contact with. In the meantime, I think that this kind of dialogue between researchers is so important, because you see how we can cross-correlate the information that we've got, because when it's unsubstantiated, it stands alone. But when you start getting multiple witnesses coming forward from completely different directions, and they all say the same thing, then people have to sit up and take notice.
K：好的，謝謝你，好的，Anthony，我希望你能夠從神經試劑之外得到治療，無論你聯繫到什麼人。同時，我想著類型的對話在研究者之間是非常重要，因為你能看到我們得到交叉證明的資訊，因為當它沒被證明，就是仍然單獨的。但當你開始接觸不同的證人，繼續不同方向前進，和他們會說同樣的東西，然後人們需要站起來並且警惕。
Anthony: That's right. That's right. That's right. So, thank you.
A：這是對的，所以，謝謝你。
Kerry: All right. You take care. And let's be in touch.
K：好的，你需要信心，讓我們繼續保持聯繫。
Anthony: Awesome. Thank you. Talk to you soon. Bye bye.
A：好的，拜拜。
Kerry: Okay. Bye bye.
K：拜拜。 |
